We can use opinion pieces for the opinion of the author, if that opinion is notable, but we cannot use it to factually say that 'This policy sparked unified outrage and an atmosphere of mistrust amongst Patreon users.' when this is really just some guy in Canada getting upset. Articles like this, ' Patreon betrays the trust of its users', are opinion pieces, and are clearly marked as such a the top of the article (where it says 'December 12, 2018

I thought I'd explain in further detail why this is not a reliable source. Your addition of this as a source has been removed a few times. this was done to add clarity to the events as the alt-right have used this to deplatform Carl from Patreon- 194.53.185.51 ( talk) 01:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC) Reply I've edited that segment to show the remarks while they maybe offensive to black people were in fact made at white racists. The gay interracial porn he sent to the alt-right member is what got Carl banned from twitter several month before. This was not an attack against black people but against self confessed white supremacists. you act like white N*****s, exactly how you describe black people acting is the impression I get dealing with the alt-right.' Theintrepid ( talk) 03:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC) Reply Īfter being harassed by the alt-right for months he went of a stream with several alt-right members where he said 'you are acting like a bunch of N*****s, just so you know. w umbolo ^^^ 21:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC) Reply All good! The recent changes are excellent. You were the one bringing up the racial aspect, so I assumed that you were saying that his ban had something to do with him sending interracial pornography to an alt-right person, which he did according to one of the sources in his Wikipedia article (or the talk page of his article) which I'm not going to look for now. I have never claimed that in fact, I have been saying that he was banned because of a campaign to remove alt-right and far-right users from the website.

contribs) 21:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC) Reply I thought you said that.

w umbolo ^^^ 20:57, 18 December 2018 (UTC) Reply Can you please provide the reliable source that says he was banned from Patreon on Decemfor sending interracial porn to alt-right users? - Preceding unsigned comment added by Theintrepid ( talk w umbolo ^^^ 20:49, 18 December 2018 (UTC) Reply The Financial Times did report it, so there might be truth to this. Theintrepid ( talk) 20:23, 18 December 2018 (UTC) Reply That's a WP:PRIMARY source by someone apparently working at Patreon and that scenario is likely not the case (because reliable sources report otherwise).

Please read WP:BLP and don't ever cite a self-published source for such controversial information about a living person. The source cited doesn't mention that anywhere. Theintrepid ( talk) 22:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC) Reply Bullshit. Please spend at least 15 seconds googling before you type. w umbolo ^^^ 22:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC) Reply He was banned for repeatedly yelling the n-word. Theintrepid ( talk) 13:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC) Reply It's your own analysis that sending interracial porn to alt-right users constitutes 'making racist comments against black people'. Carl was banned for making racist comments against black people just because members of the alt-right reported him for those racist comments does not change the fact that he made them. These kinds of basic factual errors undermine Wikipedia as a credible and politically neutral source for information. He was banned by Patreon for insulting members of the alt-right. Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.160.134.114 ( talk) 20:28, 11 December 2018 (UTC) Reply īenjamin is an English liberal. For clarity, read Wikipedia's own article on him, which presents a more balanced view. PaleAqua ( talk) 05:21, 4 October 2014 (UTC) Reply Business model? Did a quick and admittedly half-hearted news search and didn't any third party sources referencing those numbers yet. ALL patrons, that sounds a teeny bit low, but EACH patron is unimaginably high - seems like it could be worded better.(?) Brettpeirce ( talk) 13:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC) Reply from the reference:Īvg Pledge per creation: $7 It's not clear what the average donation is for the recurrent funding model, and it probably should be updated to a more recent analysis.- Lemnaminor ( talk) 16:50, 3 October 2014 (UTC) Reply Though a primary source Patreon recently released this summary How Patreon Creators Are Making Money. Just hearing about this - looking at the text 'On average, patrons donate $7 per creation' I find my self wondering whether that's EACH patron or ALL patrons. It's not okay to link to the site which the article is about?ĭone.

Just roll with it patreon